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		<title>By: Maryjo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Maryjo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Nov 2009 13:35:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have 7 children and 3  of them have health issues.  One has type 1 diabetes, one has premature ovarian failure and one has severe autism with seizures.  These are children who got these problems while still young.  We all have allergies and I get migraines along with a 4th child.

When I watched the videos of Donna and Natasha I was floored, it all made sense and I am very excited to start the diet.  I am doing BED since I had already ordered the book.

Thank you to all for posting here, it answered alot of my questions as to the diet differences.

I will post here when I have good news as I know my son will be recovered from his autism.

Maryjo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have 7 children and 3  of them have health issues.  One has type 1 diabetes, one has premature ovarian failure and one has severe autism with seizures.  These are children who got these problems while still young.  We all have allergies and I get migraines along with a 4th child.</p>
<p>When I watched the videos of Donna and Natasha I was floored, it all made sense and I am very excited to start the diet.  I am doing BED since I had already ordered the book.</p>
<p>Thank you to all for posting here, it answered alot of my questions as to the diet differences.</p>
<p>I will post here when I have good news as I know my son will be recovered from his autism.</p>
<p>Maryjo</p>
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		<title>By: Gina</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:03:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding stress issues.... my family has been on GAPS for 8 months. I&#039;m 40 years old with 2 kids, (3 &amp; 6) so I am exhausted. After the first week on the GAPS diet, I felt an energy that I&#039;ll try to describe, it was like this sack of potatoes that I had been carrying on my back had disappeared. I felt light &amp; energetic, not bogged down. Like I did when I was a teenager. It felt so right, like the way things SHOULD be. I also felt my &quot;mommy brain fog&quot; completely lift for a couple days. I felt clear headed and the main word I kept thinking, was &quot;capable&quot; I finally felt capable of doing anything, which I had never before. 

About three months into it, I had one piece of bread. The next day, I had two. That night, I was up until 3am &quot;organizing Legos&quot; like I had OCD. Amazing!! During the day, I snapped at my kids and yelled at them over nothing. At that moment, I realized I used to do that ALL THE TIME, but I hadn&#039;t in 3 months, since I started the diet. So YES, GAPS does absolutely work on stress levels. I felt completely capable of handling anything, thus never yelled or got stressed out. And I have to stress again, my body and mind felt really right, like it should feel. 

Now, 8 months into it, I&#039;m cheating again. The yelling has started again and now I&#039;m having sleep issues which adds to the stress. But I know I have a tool now to make it go away. 

Two more things, dairy used to immediately clog up my nose and my chest would feel tighter. That no longer happens. And my son who has allergies and asthma, hasn&#039;t had an asthma attack in 2 months now. Just wanted to share my experience. I think this diet is very important for physical &amp; mental health.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding stress issues&#8230;. my family has been on GAPS for 8 months. I&#8217;m 40 years old with 2 kids, (3 &amp; 6) so I am exhausted. After the first week on the GAPS diet, I felt an energy that I&#8217;ll try to describe, it was like this sack of potatoes that I had been carrying on my back had disappeared. I felt light &amp; energetic, not bogged down. Like I did when I was a teenager. It felt so right, like the way things SHOULD be. I also felt my &#8220;mommy brain fog&#8221; completely lift for a couple days. I felt clear headed and the main word I kept thinking, was &#8220;capable&#8221; I finally felt capable of doing anything, which I had never before. </p>
<p>About three months into it, I had one piece of bread. The next day, I had two. That night, I was up until 3am &#8220;organizing Legos&#8221; like I had OCD. Amazing!! During the day, I snapped at my kids and yelled at them over nothing. At that moment, I realized I used to do that ALL THE TIME, but I hadn&#8217;t in 3 months, since I started the diet. So YES, GAPS does absolutely work on stress levels. I felt completely capable of handling anything, thus never yelled or got stressed out. And I have to stress again, my body and mind felt really right, like it should feel. </p>
<p>Now, 8 months into it, I&#8217;m cheating again. The yelling has started again and now I&#8217;m having sleep issues which adds to the stress. But I know I have a tool now to make it go away. </p>
<p>Two more things, dairy used to immediately clog up my nose and my chest would feel tighter. That no longer happens. And my son who has allergies and asthma, hasn&#8217;t had an asthma attack in 2 months now. Just wanted to share my experience. I think this diet is very important for physical &amp; mental health.</p>
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		<title>By: Debbie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Debbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 02 May 2009 23:11:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the great post, Kimi, and to everyone for the informative comments.  

My family is ovo-vegetarian/ovo-lacto-vegetarian, and gluten-free, but we&#039;re moving toward a trial-month on the GAPS diet.  (I bought my first meat in 20 years today - a free range chicken that is simmering on the stove right now, well on it&#039;s way to becoming stock and more).  

I have found over the past year+ of eating gluten-free that I don&#039;t tolerate any grains very well.  My older son is definitely gluten intolerant and is also behaviorally challenging.  My 2 year old son, who is still nursing, has recently developed constipation issues that I&#039;m hoping GAPS will help.  

As was mentioned above, the GAPS diet allows a few less-starchy legumes.  I am wondering if anyone has experience or knowledge of whether the Indian dals, such as moong dal and urad dal, could be eaten on the GAPS diet?   Thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the great post, Kimi, and to everyone for the informative comments.  </p>
<p>My family is ovo-vegetarian/ovo-lacto-vegetarian, and gluten-free, but we&#8217;re moving toward a trial-month on the GAPS diet.  (I bought my first meat in 20 years today &#8211; a free range chicken that is simmering on the stove right now, well on it&#8217;s way to becoming stock and more).  </p>
<p>I have found over the past year+ of eating gluten-free that I don&#8217;t tolerate any grains very well.  My older son is definitely gluten intolerant and is also behaviorally challenging.  My 2 year old son, who is still nursing, has recently developed constipation issues that I&#8217;m hoping GAPS will help.  </p>
<p>As was mentioned above, the GAPS diet allows a few less-starchy legumes.  I am wondering if anyone has experience or knowledge of whether the Indian dals, such as moong dal and urad dal, could be eaten on the GAPS diet?   Thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Angela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Feb 2009 14:03:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kimi:  I absolutely agree that everyone would benefit from nutrient dense foods.  My children eat their fair share of processed foods from visiting friends and birthday parties.  So, I look to the probiotics of cultured foods to zap some of those &quot;poisons&quot; out of their body!!  The last 2 months have been an interesting journey.  I appear to be seemingly healthy.  However, I developed some hip pain this past year.  I&#039;ve been doing massage for a year to work on some of the pain, which has helped, but always only temporarily.  Then, a spark of thought developed that eliminating wheat and helping to heal the gut could reduce inflammation similar to an arthritic condition.  (I tested negative for wheat intolerance.) Well, I&#039;m happy to report the hip pain has reduced 75%.  What I am trying to say to those who want to try the GAPS diet is that you need to try it 100% to get it&#039;s full benefit.  Of course, you can work up to that point.  Eliminating wheat first, then other grain, then potatoes, then unacceptable beans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kimi:  I absolutely agree that everyone would benefit from nutrient dense foods.  My children eat their fair share of processed foods from visiting friends and birthday parties.  So, I look to the probiotics of cultured foods to zap some of those &#8220;poisons&#8221; out of their body!!  The last 2 months have been an interesting journey.  I appear to be seemingly healthy.  However, I developed some hip pain this past year.  I&#8217;ve been doing massage for a year to work on some of the pain, which has helped, but always only temporarily.  Then, a spark of thought developed that eliminating wheat and helping to heal the gut could reduce inflammation similar to an arthritic condition.  (I tested negative for wheat intolerance.) Well, I&#8217;m happy to report the hip pain has reduced 75%.  What I am trying to say to those who want to try the GAPS diet is that you need to try it 100% to get it&#8217;s full benefit.  Of course, you can work up to that point.  Eliminating wheat first, then other grain, then potatoes, then unacceptable beans.</p>
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		<title>By: KimiHarris</title>
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		<dc:creator>KimiHarris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 17:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Angela, 

Thanks for the excellent thoughts!  I think that it is important to do the full diet if you have major issues you want to heal. But as an &quot;all or nothing&quot; type of gal, I think that it&#039;s also important to say that everyone could benefit from adding in bone broths and cultured foods into their diet, and that many people will see improvements in their health even from just adding in nourishing foods like bone broths. I wish it were that easy for all of us! :-) 

I think that you can definitely cut corners and by not wasting anything, really be able to utilize your resources well. I do think that it would cost more to eat grain free, however. It would be worth it for those of us who have health issues to resolve, but you may want to have at least a slightly higher food budget while on the diet.  But it would be worth the extra cost if you were able to resolve health issues (that could cause doctor bills!).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Angela, </p>
<p>Thanks for the excellent thoughts!  I think that it is important to do the full diet if you have major issues you want to heal. But as an &#8220;all or nothing&#8221; type of gal, I think that it&#8217;s also important to say that everyone could benefit from adding in bone broths and cultured foods into their diet, and that many people will see improvements in their health even from just adding in nourishing foods like bone broths. I wish it were that easy for all of us! <img src='http://www.thenourishinggourmet.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>I think that you can definitely cut corners and by not wasting anything, really be able to utilize your resources well. I do think that it would cost more to eat grain free, however. It would be worth it for those of us who have health issues to resolve, but you may want to have at least a slightly higher food budget while on the diet.  But it would be worth the extra cost if you were able to resolve health issues (that could cause doctor bills!).</p>
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		<title>By: Carrot and Celery Root Soup</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carrot and Celery Root Soup</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 16:52:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Angela</title>
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		<dc:creator>Angela</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 14:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree everyone eating refined foods need gut support.  Our family eats WAPF style for 95% of our meals.  The last 2 months, I have been eating a GAPS diet because I want to see its affect in helping me heal a decade worth of antibiotics from my youth which I hope will help with some autoimmune conditions.  Those who think it is expensive, I do not agree.  I think it takes planning and organization.  I find that the &quot;wheat&quot; based quick food in our society, even if it is organic, fermented sourdough bread, gives us access to fast food when we need it, like in the mornings.  I make my own almond milk, use the almond meal and make crackers.  I use one chicken and make soup, shred the meat and use it in 2 dishes for dinner and boil the &quot;h_ _ _&quot; out of the carcass for broth.  This one chicken becomes 3 dinners (for 5 people).  The chicken is $7 a lb, but, it stretches.  One remark, I&#039;d like to add is that if you want to try GAPS, read the book.  I do not believe there is an &quot;almost&quot; GAPS diet.  If you are feeding your gut with disaccharides, then you&#039;re defeating the purpose of the diet.  This diet is similar to SCD because that is where Natasha started with her own journey.  She gives credit to Elaine Gottschall in her book.  The main difference is that Natasha does not recommend any dairy in the beginning if the patient is acute and displaying symptoms of autism, ADD etc..  I heard her speak and she believes that healing can take 1 - 3 years, but, that the goal is to eventually have a healed gut that an occasional piece of pizza is not going to hurt you.  If you want to hear her speak, you can purchase her CD on the WAPF site.  I highly recommend it.

Good luck to all those who choose this journey.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree everyone eating refined foods need gut support.  Our family eats WAPF style for 95% of our meals.  The last 2 months, I have been eating a GAPS diet because I want to see its affect in helping me heal a decade worth of antibiotics from my youth which I hope will help with some autoimmune conditions.  Those who think it is expensive, I do not agree.  I think it takes planning and organization.  I find that the &#8220;wheat&#8221; based quick food in our society, even if it is organic, fermented sourdough bread, gives us access to fast food when we need it, like in the mornings.  I make my own almond milk, use the almond meal and make crackers.  I use one chicken and make soup, shred the meat and use it in 2 dishes for dinner and boil the &#8220;h_ _ _&#8221; out of the carcass for broth.  This one chicken becomes 3 dinners (for 5 people).  The chicken is $7 a lb, but, it stretches.  One remark, I&#8217;d like to add is that if you want to try GAPS, read the book.  I do not believe there is an &#8220;almost&#8221; GAPS diet.  If you are feeding your gut with disaccharides, then you&#8217;re defeating the purpose of the diet.  This diet is similar to SCD because that is where Natasha started with her own journey.  She gives credit to Elaine Gottschall in her book.  The main difference is that Natasha does not recommend any dairy in the beginning if the patient is acute and displaying symptoms of autism, ADD etc..  I heard her speak and she believes that healing can take 1 &#8211; 3 years, but, that the goal is to eventually have a healed gut that an occasional piece of pizza is not going to hurt you.  If you want to hear her speak, you can purchase her CD on the WAPF site.  I highly recommend it.</p>
<p>Good luck to all those who choose this journey.</p>
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		<title>By: Alison @ Wholesome Goodness</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alison @ Wholesome Goodness</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 16:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m so glad I didn&#039;t offend anyone!  :-)  I am also very motivated to investigate GAPS further.  It sounds like a better fit for me than BED in terms of allowing some legumes, no grains, and a bit more meat and fat than BED.  I have just started making bone broths, so this might be a good time for me to try out GAPS.  I&#039;m SO thankful for all of the things I learn through blogs and comments.</description>
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		<title>By: Braised 7 Hour Lamb</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Feb 2009 16:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Carrie @ Oreganic Thrifty</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carrie @ Oreganic Thrifty</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Feb 2009 05:47:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kimi,

Great post! I just wanted to share my experience briefly (catching up on my blog reading, can you tell?!?!) We found great success with my daughter (whose long saga of birth trauma and other ailments can be found at http://oreganicthrifty.blogspot.com/search/label/our%20healing%20journey)
when we were doing GAPS for yeast and constipation issues. I had also hoped that GAPS would help  the behavioral issues as well, but it did not.  Fortunately, I found out about &quot;Neurodevelopmental Retraining&quot; which is a movement-based therapy that builds new neurological growth in the brain. Interestingly enough, children with neurological impairments  (the whole spectrum) have digestive issues, as Dr. Campbell-McBride has noted as a pediatric neurologist. 

After some more health sleuthing as to my daughter&#039;s issues, we began Neurodevelopmental Retraining (which recommends the GAPS diet in conjunction). I also had Nutritional Response Testing done on her by a local Naturopath, Dr. Daniel Chong (awesome) and he detected mercury issues and major wheat, rice, corn, and gluten intolerances.  I guess mercury can cause persistant yeast issues, which my daughter definitely dealt with. Interestingly enough, almost the day after we started our herbal supplements for her (pre-digested, fermented chlorella) the yeast issues practically disappeared as the chlorella helps chelate heavy metals. Even though she&#039;s eating plenty of fruit and honey on GAPS, she has not a single yeast issue. So the only thing that&#039;s changed is the chelating agent, which I think Dr. NCM discusses in her book.

Anyway, it&#039;s all very interesting . All this to say, sometimes diet alone isn&#039;t enough; it might also take some mild chelation and movement therapy if the underlying cause of the digestive disorders is neurological. But the latter can never be healed without the change in diet.

I also have been on BED  and I love the principles. I didn&#039;t do well with any of the grains, and just feel better when I eat GAPS.  I think a person with type A blood would do really well on BED, while I (a type B) prefer more meat and fat and less carbs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kimi,</p>
<p>Great post! I just wanted to share my experience briefly (catching up on my blog reading, can you tell?!?!) We found great success with my daughter (whose long saga of birth trauma and other ailments can be found at <a href="http://oreganicthrifty.blogspot.com/search/label/our%20healing%20journey)" rel="nofollow">http://oreganicthrifty.blogspot.com/search/label/our%20healing%20journey)</a><br />
when we were doing GAPS for yeast and constipation issues. I had also hoped that GAPS would help  the behavioral issues as well, but it did not.  Fortunately, I found out about &#8220;Neurodevelopmental Retraining&#8221; which is a movement-based therapy that builds new neurological growth in the brain. Interestingly enough, children with neurological impairments  (the whole spectrum) have digestive issues, as Dr. Campbell-McBride has noted as a pediatric neurologist. </p>
<p>After some more health sleuthing as to my daughter&#8217;s issues, we began Neurodevelopmental Retraining (which recommends the GAPS diet in conjunction). I also had Nutritional Response Testing done on her by a local Naturopath, Dr. Daniel Chong (awesome) and he detected mercury issues and major wheat, rice, corn, and gluten intolerances.  I guess mercury can cause persistant yeast issues, which my daughter definitely dealt with. Interestingly enough, almost the day after we started our herbal supplements for her (pre-digested, fermented chlorella) the yeast issues practically disappeared as the chlorella helps chelate heavy metals. Even though she&#8217;s eating plenty of fruit and honey on GAPS, she has not a single yeast issue. So the only thing that&#8217;s changed is the chelating agent, which I think Dr. NCM discusses in her book.</p>
<p>Anyway, it&#8217;s all very interesting . All this to say, sometimes diet alone isn&#8217;t enough; it might also take some mild chelation and movement therapy if the underlying cause of the digestive disorders is neurological. But the latter can never be healed without the change in diet.</p>
<p>I also have been on BED  and I love the principles. I didn&#8217;t do well with any of the grains, and just feel better when I eat GAPS.  I think a person with type A blood would do really well on BED, while I (a type B) prefer more meat and fat and less carbs.</p>
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