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		<title>By: rhean</title>
		<link>http://www.thenourishinggourmet.com/2008/11/in-my-kitchen-coconut-sugar.html/comment-page-1#comment-41407</link>
		<dc:creator>rhean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Mar 2010 03:05:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>is there any disadvantage of coconut sap sugar?</description>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2010 02:00:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s probably not as cheap, but there&#039;s a lovely organic, fair trade brand of granulated coconut sugar available from http://www.cocopure.com.au/coconut-butter/fine-foods/fine-foods.html

It&#039;s $6.50 AUD for 250gm (about 1 cup).

Thanks for a great site - it&#039;s very informative.  I was trying to find information on the nutritional properties of coconut sugar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s probably not as cheap, but there&#8217;s a lovely organic, fair trade brand of granulated coconut sugar available from <a href="http://www.cocopure.com.au/coconut-butter/fine-foods/fine-foods.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.cocopure.com.au/coconut-butter/fine-foods/fine-foods.html</a></p>
<p>It&#8217;s $6.50 AUD for 250gm (about 1 cup).</p>
<p>Thanks for a great site &#8211; it&#8217;s very informative.  I was trying to find information on the nutritional properties of coconut sugar.</p>
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		<title>By: Morgan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Morgan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 20:50:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Check out essential living foods coconut sugar and agave they make wonderul foods. Go to google and type in &quot;essential living foods&quot; and then hit &quot;products&quot; you can order via web and it&#039;s an amazing company!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Check out essential living foods coconut sugar and agave they make wonderul foods. Go to google and type in &#8220;essential living foods&#8221; and then hit &#8220;products&#8221; you can order via web and it&#8217;s an amazing company!</p>
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		<title>By: Niki G</title>
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		<dc:creator>Niki G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 13:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What&#039;s the point of this &quot;test&quot;?  Is there any valid, real-life application to it?

You say you&#039;re diabetic, that means you need to regulate your glucose intake then you take 200 calories of coco sugar to prove what?

 A prudent diabetic (or a health-conscious person) will not consume 200 calories in one sitting.  Your blood sugar, whether your&#039;e diabetic or not will definitely shoot up if you consume that much.

The glycemic response of edible foods and beverages are not dependent on their calorie count. Zero-calorie and zero-carb food can elicit high insulin levels and affect blood glucose concentration during the digestion process.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What&#8217;s the point of this &#8220;test&#8221;?  Is there any valid, real-life application to it?</p>
<p>You say you&#8217;re diabetic, that means you need to regulate your glucose intake then you take 200 calories of coco sugar to prove what?</p>
<p> A prudent diabetic (or a health-conscious person) will not consume 200 calories in one sitting.  Your blood sugar, whether your&#8217;e diabetic or not will definitely shoot up if you consume that much.</p>
<p>The glycemic response of edible foods and beverages are not dependent on their calorie count. Zero-calorie and zero-carb food can elicit high insulin levels and affect blood glucose concentration during the digestion process.</p>
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		<title>By: KimiHarris</title>
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		<dc:creator>KimiHarris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Dec 2009 00:41:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many feel that diabetics should completely avoid sweet things, so I don&#039;t know if I would really recommend any type of sweetener to someone with major blood sugar issues. 

And truthfully, I would hate for anyone to eat 200 calories of coconut sugar on a fast! That would spike most people&#039;s blood sugar. :-) By the way, if you eat fat with sugar you will generally lower the glycemic load of sugar. Also, in Nourishing Traditions, Sally mentioned a study where they found that people responded to different sweeteners differently. Some people will spike more with certain sweeteners....for no apparent reason. So everyone, know that you may do better with certain sweeteners.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many feel that diabetics should completely avoid sweet things, so I don&#8217;t know if I would really recommend any type of sweetener to someone with major blood sugar issues. </p>
<p>And truthfully, I would hate for anyone to eat 200 calories of coconut sugar on a fast! That would spike most people&#8217;s blood sugar. <img src='http://www.thenourishinggourmet.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  By the way, if you eat fat with sugar you will generally lower the glycemic load of sugar. Also, in Nourishing Traditions, Sally mentioned a study where they found that people responded to different sweeteners differently. Some people will spike more with certain sweeteners&#8230;.for no apparent reason. So everyone, know that you may do better with certain sweeteners.</p>
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		<title>By: Jody</title>
		<link>http://www.thenourishinggourmet.com/2008/11/in-my-kitchen-coconut-sugar.html/comment-page-1#comment-28426</link>
		<dc:creator>Jody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 23:46:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have two different kinds of sugar by Caravelle.  One is the canned Coconut Sugar and the other is a jar of Pure Palm Sugar.  I haven&#039;t yet tried the canned sugar, but the one in the jar sounds like what you&#039;ve described.  They both have pictures of swirled sugar lumps on them.

I can&#039;t tell you whether there are refined sugars added.  The jar does say &quot;Ingredients:  Palm Sugar 100%&quot;, but as you wrote, the can has very little English on it, so it is hard to know for sure.

Ironically, I asked my mother to look for coconut or palm sugar in a large Asian market where she lives and she was unable to find it at all.  She did find the hard sugar lumps and a Vietnamese friend also gave some to her and told her that it can be melted in the microwave.  After she went to several stores and still came up empty-handed, I ended up finding my two jar/cans at a small Korean market in my relatively small town!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have two different kinds of sugar by Caravelle.  One is the canned Coconut Sugar and the other is a jar of Pure Palm Sugar.  I haven&#8217;t yet tried the canned sugar, but the one in the jar sounds like what you&#8217;ve described.  They both have pictures of swirled sugar lumps on them.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t tell you whether there are refined sugars added.  The jar does say &#8220;Ingredients:  Palm Sugar 100%&#8221;, but as you wrote, the can has very little English on it, so it is hard to know for sure.</p>
<p>Ironically, I asked my mother to look for coconut or palm sugar in a large Asian market where she lives and she was unable to find it at all.  She did find the hard sugar lumps and a Vietnamese friend also gave some to her and told her that it can be melted in the microwave.  After she went to several stores and still came up empty-handed, I ended up finding my two jar/cans at a small Korean market in my relatively small town!</p>
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		<title>By: BeCareful</title>
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		<dc:creator>BeCareful</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 26 Dec 2009 22:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Coconut sugar tastes great, but it is sugar. If you are diabetic as I am take the glycemic claims with a grain of ... sugar. After a 10-hour fast I tested my blood sugar. Then I ate about 200 calories of coconut sugar. At 30 minutes my blood sugar spiked to over double the baseline. Without eating anything else it took over 2-hours to get back to the baseline. Of course this isn&#039;t a scientific study. Still, people with diabetes probably need to treat coconut sugar as the sugar it is and use it in moderation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Coconut sugar tastes great, but it is sugar. If you are diabetic as I am take the glycemic claims with a grain of &#8230; sugar. After a 10-hour fast I tested my blood sugar. Then I ate about 200 calories of coconut sugar. At 30 minutes my blood sugar spiked to over double the baseline. Without eating anything else it took over 2-hours to get back to the baseline. Of course this isn&#8217;t a scientific study. Still, people with diabetes probably need to treat coconut sugar as the sugar it is and use it in moderation.</p>
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		<title>By: Alymarie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alymarie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Nov 2009 23:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have fallen for coconut sugar and use it almost exclusively in all my baked goods.  While researching it I noticed that several sites listed the glutamate content as 34.2 g/100g.  That seems excessive to me and was wondering whether that is a concern.  I&#039;m very MSG sensitive and have never noticed any problems after consuming coconut sugar but since glutamate can be toxic to the brain in any form, I was worried when I read the amount.  Any thought?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have fallen for coconut sugar and use it almost exclusively in all my baked goods.  While researching it I noticed that several sites listed the glutamate content as 34.2 g/100g.  That seems excessive to me and was wondering whether that is a concern.  I&#8217;m very MSG sensitive and have never noticed any problems after consuming coconut sugar but since glutamate can be toxic to the brain in any form, I was worried when I read the amount.  Any thought?</p>
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		<title>By: Jeanmarie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeanmarie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Oct 2009 21:04:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Anna, well said. I keep some organic sugar around for making kombucha and kefir soda, that&#039;s it. I did buy some chocolates yesterday for the first time in months, but ate fairly moderate amounts with some crispy nuts to mitigate the impact on blood sugar. But you&#039;re right, there&#039;s no free lunch on sugar consumption.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Anna, well said. I keep some organic sugar around for making kombucha and kefir soda, that&#8217;s it. I did buy some chocolates yesterday for the first time in months, but ate fairly moderate amounts with some crispy nuts to mitigate the impact on blood sugar. But you&#8217;re right, there&#8217;s no free lunch on sugar consumption.</p>
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		<title>By: Anna</title>
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		<dc:creator>Anna</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Aug 2009 18:18:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m always wet noodle raining on the sugar parade.  

There&#039;s no such thing as a free lunch when it comes to sugar; less is always better, no matter what the sugar source, no matter how &quot;traditional&quot;, no matter how unrefined.  It doesn&#039;t matter if we are thick or thin, more than tiny amounts of sugar are problematic.  Our biochemistry and physiology was determined over millions of years when there were few sources of readily and steadily available concentrated sugars, so we can&#039;t handle very much without slowly developing health issues.  Historically, concentrated sugar was relatively scarce and costly.   Once the supply grew ample and cheap (19th century-20th century) concentrated sugars really turned deadly on an increasingly massive scale.  This isn&#039;t a new phenomenon, it&#039;s just on a much larger scale than ever seen before.

There is simply too much glucose and fructose in concentrated sugars for the modest amount of other nutrients that accompany sugars (in other words, sugars aren&#039;t where we should be looking for our minerals and vitamins).  Concentrated sugars (of any sort, including honey, coconut/palm sugar, date sugar, maple syrup, cane sugar, beet sugar, fruit juice concentrates, etc.) need to kept to very small, very, infrequent doses.  Check out the University of California TV seminar by Dr. Lustig for a great presentation on sugar - Sugar: The Bitter Truth (www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM).  He refers to fructose a lot, but he makes clear that sucrose and HFCS  (both approx half fructose) are both equally awful in biochemical pathways.  Fructose is indeed the sneakier part of the sugar equation, though, but is never mentioned or quantified on nutrition labels.

Lynn 06.18.09 at 1:05 pm and Marissa 08.19.09 at 3:07 pm also commented with similar  concerns.  Glad to see that.

Sucrose is a disaccharide (two molecule sugar) made of one molecule glucose bound to one molecule fructose.  So the small % listed as glucose and fructose in coconut sugar are unbound molecules and they don&#039;t take into account the glucose and fructose that make up the sucrose.  

Be skeptical of those Glycemic Index/Glycemic Load claims - those glycemic studies are based on young, seemingly healthy subjects and the results may not be applicable to anyone who is older, has impaired glucose tolerance (like me) or diabetes.  It also makes a difference what else is eaten with the sugars.  Fats slow down the rate of sugar entering the blood, but then the insulin promotes storing the fat instead of burning it.  

And ultimately, all the carbs (including sugars), except indigestible fibers) you ingest have to be metabolized and processed, regardless of how slow or fast they hit the bloodstream.  If it&#039;s glucose, that means insulin needs to be made to push the glucose into cells; it&#039;s fructose, the liver has to convert it to glycogen (if the stores are depleted by intense physical activity) or into triglycerides (fat).  The body works very hard to maintain BG levels at about 1 teaspoon of glucose (about 4 grams) at all times even if that means non-stop insulin production), so unless you are burning through the sugar at a fast rate, anything more than what is immediately needed is toxic to the cells and EXCESS, and will be converted to fat.  Fructose (as in sucrose and concentrated fructose sweeteners) beyond the modest amount of fructose consumed in a few pieces of whole fresh fruit is just a train wreck in the liver eventually (NAFLD).  

Now after all this dumping on sugar, yes, I have some sugar in my house.  Grade B maple syrup (least fructose content I can find in a sugar, so far); raw local honey, fridge, and a jar of coconut sugar in the fridge.  But that one jar (the thick, gluey kind from the Asian store) has been there at least 6 months, probably longer, that&#039;s how often I use it.  The honey takes forever to use up, and the maples syrup is used rather slowly, too (1 quart purchased perhaps 2-3 times per year).  I buy more granulated sugar for the hummingbird feeder each year than I do for our family (maybe 2-3 pounds granulated sugar for us, and mostly that&#039;s used when I have company and need to make sweeter things for them).  We eat only chocolate that is at least 70% cocoa solids, and that&#039;s probably our major form of sugar intake, other than some fresh fruit.  I&#039;m quite sure our entire family eats far less than one third the sugar (from all sources) of the national average per capita intake of about 150 pounds.   

So I&#039;m not really anti-sugar; I just recognize that the healthiness or unhealthiness of sugar is far less about the source, the GI #, or the refinement level of sugars and a lot more about the amount and the frequency of intake.  Low and infrequent is always better and we don&#039;t seem to miss it, though that took a while.

We are a culture addicted to sweet and we rationalize our sugar consumption in numerous ways.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m always wet noodle raining on the sugar parade.  </p>
<p>There&#8217;s no such thing as a free lunch when it comes to sugar; less is always better, no matter what the sugar source, no matter how &#8220;traditional&#8221;, no matter how unrefined.  It doesn&#8217;t matter if we are thick or thin, more than tiny amounts of sugar are problematic.  Our biochemistry and physiology was determined over millions of years when there were few sources of readily and steadily available concentrated sugars, so we can&#8217;t handle very much without slowly developing health issues.  Historically, concentrated sugar was relatively scarce and costly.   Once the supply grew ample and cheap (19th century-20th century) concentrated sugars really turned deadly on an increasingly massive scale.  This isn&#8217;t a new phenomenon, it&#8217;s just on a much larger scale than ever seen before.</p>
<p>There is simply too much glucose and fructose in concentrated sugars for the modest amount of other nutrients that accompany sugars (in other words, sugars aren&#8217;t where we should be looking for our minerals and vitamins).  Concentrated sugars (of any sort, including honey, coconut/palm sugar, date sugar, maple syrup, cane sugar, beet sugar, fruit juice concentrates, etc.) need to kept to very small, very, infrequent doses.  Check out the University of California TV seminar by Dr. Lustig for a great presentation on sugar &#8211; Sugar: The Bitter Truth (www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBnniua6-oM).  He refers to fructose a lot, but he makes clear that sucrose and HFCS  (both approx half fructose) are both equally awful in biochemical pathways.  Fructose is indeed the sneakier part of the sugar equation, though, but is never mentioned or quantified on nutrition labels.</p>
<p>Lynn 06.18.09 at 1:05 pm and Marissa 08.19.09 at 3:07 pm also commented with similar  concerns.  Glad to see that.</p>
<p>Sucrose is a disaccharide (two molecule sugar) made of one molecule glucose bound to one molecule fructose.  So the small % listed as glucose and fructose in coconut sugar are unbound molecules and they don&#8217;t take into account the glucose and fructose that make up the sucrose.  </p>
<p>Be skeptical of those Glycemic Index/Glycemic Load claims &#8211; those glycemic studies are based on young, seemingly healthy subjects and the results may not be applicable to anyone who is older, has impaired glucose tolerance (like me) or diabetes.  It also makes a difference what else is eaten with the sugars.  Fats slow down the rate of sugar entering the blood, but then the insulin promotes storing the fat instead of burning it.  </p>
<p>And ultimately, all the carbs (including sugars), except indigestible fibers) you ingest have to be metabolized and processed, regardless of how slow or fast they hit the bloodstream.  If it&#8217;s glucose, that means insulin needs to be made to push the glucose into cells; it&#8217;s fructose, the liver has to convert it to glycogen (if the stores are depleted by intense physical activity) or into triglycerides (fat).  The body works very hard to maintain BG levels at about 1 teaspoon of glucose (about 4 grams) at all times even if that means non-stop insulin production), so unless you are burning through the sugar at a fast rate, anything more than what is immediately needed is toxic to the cells and EXCESS, and will be converted to fat.  Fructose (as in sucrose and concentrated fructose sweeteners) beyond the modest amount of fructose consumed in a few pieces of whole fresh fruit is just a train wreck in the liver eventually (NAFLD).  </p>
<p>Now after all this dumping on sugar, yes, I have some sugar in my house.  Grade B maple syrup (least fructose content I can find in a sugar, so far); raw local honey, fridge, and a jar of coconut sugar in the fridge.  But that one jar (the thick, gluey kind from the Asian store) has been there at least 6 months, probably longer, that&#8217;s how often I use it.  The honey takes forever to use up, and the maples syrup is used rather slowly, too (1 quart purchased perhaps 2-3 times per year).  I buy more granulated sugar for the hummingbird feeder each year than I do for our family (maybe 2-3 pounds granulated sugar for us, and mostly that&#8217;s used when I have company and need to make sweeter things for them).  We eat only chocolate that is at least 70% cocoa solids, and that&#8217;s probably our major form of sugar intake, other than some fresh fruit.  I&#8217;m quite sure our entire family eats far less than one third the sugar (from all sources) of the national average per capita intake of about 150 pounds.   </p>
<p>So I&#8217;m not really anti-sugar; I just recognize that the healthiness or unhealthiness of sugar is far less about the source, the GI #, or the refinement level of sugars and a lot more about the amount and the frequency of intake.  Low and infrequent is always better and we don&#8217;t seem to miss it, though that took a while.</p>
<p>We are a culture addicted to sweet and we rationalize our sugar consumption in numerous ways.</p>
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